• Jordan Clark

    Something tells me this is probably going to lead to some litigation down the road for more then one reason.

    1. (And granted I don’t know the Inn’s and outs of their system, so I could be wrong) but having used background check software/services unless the person gives you consent and provides you all of their information you are likely to find a ton of missmatched information. Having done one on myself for fun, I have found numerous errors in my location, job title, and my age. Seeing as they are drawing that information from “online” sources I have a feeling there will probably be a significantly large amount of errors.

    2. I can also see this facing some serious litigation in the area of missrepresentation or consent. Granted it would appear they are drawing information from websites that the user is involved with but they aren’t requesting permissions (so far as the article says) to have access to that information from the “user” or gaining any terms of agreement/consent. Not to mention I would hate to see what happens if the program provides missinformation that causes someone to miss a job opportunity because thats just a lawsuit waiting to happen, or provides missinformation to an employer that ends up hiring someone based off bogus/bad information (another lawsuit waiting to happen.)

    Other then that seems like a very interesting idea, I would still say my biggest concern would be the quality of the information as people can put anything online in multiple places, but it would definitely be something worth keeping an eye on over the next 5 years to see if it can establish a beach head and make a name for itself.

  • Keith Halperin

    I used it for a few weeks a couple of months ago, and I thought it was interesting. However, unless the contact info was included in the sourced data, TalentBin didn’t include it. For $4,800/yr, I’d want the direct contact info.


  • Jordan Clark

    @Keith: Thanks for the input, you definitely raised the point of my concern, I would certainly be interested to see what they have to offer but your experience is exactly what I would be cautious about.

    Grabbing people’s profiles off of various digital media without providing quality contact information doesn’t facilitate or provide any real benefit, and could actually end up wasting a lot of time and money having to find their information. When by comparison I could spend that same time and money searching through LinkedIn and have a direct avenue of communication.

    Not to mention at $4,800/yr thats a bit to ask for without a proven track record of success.

    I’ll definitely be keeping track of this one for the future, looking forward to see how it turns out!

  • Kathryn O’Brien

    I’d be concerned with the accuracy of data when there are so many variables. I am by far the only “Kathryn O’Brien” on Linked In, Twitter, Facebook, Google+… I think it is valid to be concerned that information representing me has been sourced incorrectly. Can one opt out of being profiled? Or correct/amend profile information?

  • http://rehaul.com Lance Haun

    Thanks for the comments. Peter can probably comment better than I but a couple thoughts on what you all brought up:

    – Just my opinion (and I don’t play a lawyer) but I imagine the litigation risk is fairly low. This is a search and discovery tool, not a social media background check tool. Assuming a company is reaching out, they don’t get dinged for missing people they could have possibly contacted about a job.
    – TalentBin won’t win unless it gets data correct. The onus is on them, certainly. If their info is off too frequently to use consistently, it is going to be rough.
    – Data sources are public. At least as far as I can tell, this isn’t stuff that one couldn’t find using boolean or other searches. Combining that into a profile does create an issue, especially with outdated or incorrect info.
    – We’re also playing two sides of the devil here when it comes to contact information. We’re concerned about outdated info and privacy yet we also want it served up in the system for recruiters? They’ll have to pick one and live with it.

    Thanks again everyone!

  • Peter Kazanjy

    Hey there folks! Pete Kazanjy, one of the founders here. Wanted to provide some responses to see if might be able to add some clarity.

    Jordan: Thanks for the questions, Jordan!

    Regarding “background” checking, and so on, the idea of using consumer credit information for background checking is indeed a serious space. As such, we have purposefully avoided that, in that we believe that the promise of what we’re doing is less about “checking someone out” and more about discovering candidates that would make sense for you.

    That is, we’re more concerned about answering the question for recruiters of “Show me all the iPhone developers in the Austin area, based on their online activity” and less about “Show me which of them is better and which of them is less so.”

    Consent / Misinformation: We are also very concerned about this, which is why a. this is not a substitute for a resume or a screening and interview process — post-ATS activity, that is — wherein hiring / passing decisions are made, and b. all the information we crawl is freely available on the open web. If Google can see it, we can see it. We just are more focused on structuring the information in a way that makes it searchable for recruiters, in a way Google is not set up to do.

    Keith: We provide all available contact information that we can find for a candidate. That means their email address, twitter handle, and also the ability to contact them on the sites where they’ve been discovered, like Facebook messaging, LinkedIn InMail, Quora in-messaging, Meetup messaging, etc. etc. We don’t have *all* for every profile, but it’s just like a clever sourcer who kicks out to Google after discovering someone on LinkedIn, and tries to find their other means of contact. Except we do it algorithmically.

    Kathryn: The matching system is a lot more robust than just matching first-name, last-name, as you can imagine! That’s where a fair amount of our engineering time is spent, to ensure that the Kathryn O’Brien from Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn, Meetup, and so on that is matched together is actually you, as opposed to that other Kathryn O’Brien. And of course we always provide links back to the sources, so you can verify!

    Thanks everyone for the great comments / questions!

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  • http://www.mycompas.com Jack Smith

    COMPAS Technology is looking forward to partnering with the team at TalentBin.


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